protector-of-the-small replied to your post:Shoutout to all my followers who don’t know or…
About b5? Man every post you make makes me want to watch it
that is the correct answer, my friend~ :D
protector-of-the-small replied to your post:Shoutout to all my followers who don’t know or…
About b5? Man every post you make makes me want to watch it
that is the correct answer, my friend~ :D
Shoutout to all my followers who don’t know or care what the fuck this all is.
I still love you. Have patience with me, I just have a lot of feelings.
kaza999 replied to your post:AUGH, LONDO I WAS NOT EXPECTING YOU HERE except…
kinda love how it wasn’t a darkest timeline—b5 pulls no punchesI am slightly of two minds about it? I mean, I think the sign of something being well written is if it gets stuck in you like a fishhook like…
I’m in the same boat about the ending. On the one hand, I feel like it’s perfect that it happened the way it did because I’m actually kind of invested in the death-vision/Centauri precognition as 100% accurate fate-written-in-stone thing and not a wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey phenomenon, since I think it presents a lot of unique problems for Centauri culture and civilization, and I like playing with that angle of Londo and G’Kar’s relationship in my fic.
On the other hand, I just want to write and draw alternate ending AUs where Londo fixes everything somehow and G’Kar stays on Centauri Prime forever and they spend the rest of their days as a pair of happy, snarky old men. And eventually the Narns start actually understanding G’Kar’s work and stop worshiping him blindly, so he can go back to Narn and help them rebuild, and Londo comes to visit with him, and they end up splitting their time between Centauri Prime and Narn and and they usher in a new age of peace and friendship and… and… ;_;This is a dilemma for me.
Same.
Like that’s why I’m just, ‘Oh, well done ending, that’s a good.’ It was great that they just let things go and happen and you saw hints and okay, I have never been more devastated about someone like, 'Isn’t there any alcohol? anywhere?’ because I KNOW WHAT IT WILL DO, and that was such a beautiful way to go about it, I love the things that fell into place, I loved that I was filled with devastation and tension so EARLY because I WASN’T SURE IF THEY WOULD DO IT. I like that Londo knew there would be some bad happening, I just kept thinking it would be dealt with in some clever kind of 'cheating’ way like the last time we time traveled? Like a 'it wasn’t all what it seemed’ for the audience kind of thing, but still very technically fulfilled the obligations of the visions and other things.
AND ALL OF WHAT YOU SAID IS PRETTY MUCH WHERE I WAS HEADING TOO. Like, oh, hey, your weird religious status has caused you to be very popular, so we can use it for intercultural learning for now and then maybe people will calm down, and you can go home, and yay, cultural peace and friendship and rebuilding of both worlds from strange Emperor and Abassador/Icon’s Orbit Thing, yes good.
I’ve only eaten a bag of fruit snacks today, what have you all done to me
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Awww, oh, thank you, that’s lovely of you to say~ I snickered the entire time I was making him!
I have been drawing little button-eyed doodles of him and Londo in my sketchbook at work when I don’t have proper reference around. Thus, they’re all kind of terrible, but I’m looking forward to making beautiful and ridiculous things in equal measure now that I have some time to accumulate and study proper reference photos!
I paint anything that affects me deeply enough, and this definitely qualifies!
thank you again~~~
Hello, hello~ Lovely to see you~
It’s a strange thing, being a proper fan this time, instead of being casually into it as something that my dad and grandmother often sat me in front of when I was a kid. Star Trek, Babylon 5, and several other similar shows were the background radiation of my childhood, and I grew up with love for a lot of characters just left over from my feelings about them as a kid. So I knew going in that I was going to love Londo and G'Kar and their relationship, and I knew that it would at some point be a given that if you saw one, you saw the other. It was strange to just feel that even with the horrible shit that happened between them. I knew I remembered there being something there. I was so enchanted with them as a kid that I’m delighted to see said enchantment even stronger as an adult. (I was the same way about Odo and Quark from DS9, though as an adult, I found Garak, who I don’t think I was ever lucky enough to see as a kid, and thus he and Bashir became my focus, but I am straying from the path here.)
I think one or both of the blogs you mentioned have reblogged the three B5 art things I’ve done, so I’ll check them out, thanks.
I’m not usually one for jumping into a fandom, I kind of lurk in the background and wait to be accepted, like some kind of wildlife documentary, so I don’t think I’ll be yelling into the tags any time soon, but I’ll have things to contribute to them, for certain. Different fandoms have different cultures, so I like to observe for a long time before I get Super In. Though I may have crossed that line by liveblogging my decent into Londo-Related Devastation.
I may or may not have looked at AO3 just to see what my prospects were when things were getting Terribad, so while it doesn’t look as big as I would have hoped, and is even smaller for me than most people thanks to my particular hang ups, I hope I’ll find something there akin to burn cream and hydration for my sad scorched raisin heart, haha.
kaza999 replied to your post:AUGH, LONDO I WAS NOT EXPECTING YOU HERE except…
kinda love how it wasn’t a darkest timeline—b5 pulls no punches
I am slightly of two minds about it? I mean, I think the sign of something being well written is if it gets stuck in you like a fishhook like this has, so I give love and kudos to that having stuck to that horrible, horrible stuff that murdered me. I am go glad I experienced that. I wonder how my grandmother functioned when she finished the series, I should ask her.
I also think that if the ending had been happier or better for Londo, we all would have been super focused on the darkest timeline and wondered what would have gone down, etc etc. We’re always curious about what we didn’t get, right?
But the large chunk of my heart that was like ‘THEY WERE MY FAVORITES’ is sort of shriveled and raisin-esque in response to all this, haha. I think I’d feel more like, 'Wow, nice job, I can roll with that’ about it if that had been Sheridan’s fate, for example. But Londo and G'Kar? I scream, I weep, there is gnashing of teeth.
kaza999 replied to your post:okay, this is like a weird reverse bow out with…
i have this theory that ivanova and delenn got together after sheridan died because that makes me happy for both of them
Ha haaaaaaaa, I feel like I’m a deli counter like, ‘Yes, I’ll have one of those also’, I love you guys.
haldora replied to your post:radioactivesoup replied to your post:okay, this is…
That kills me, too. ;_; If it’s any comfort, I imagine that everything that happened with the Drakh was brought to light after his and G’Kar’s deaths and Vir spent most of his reign cleaning up Emperor Mollari’s reputation.Jeez, I hope so. I remember thinking that the way that Vir emerged after Londo’s death was sort of weird and ominous-looking, and I was really worried about what had happened to Vir’s charming personality, as well as his future as the emperor. Like, literally nothing looked good about that situation.
Meanwhile, some clear Shit happened to G’Kar before that point as well, given the condition of his eye (again, poor dude). And then I’m like, why is G’Kar there? Does he just know? Do they have a weird fucked up link now? Had Londo been sending him covert mostly drunken messages across random space hoping to make sense and have G’Kar do what should be done because G’Kar is still a fucking pillar of honor and virtue? I feel like Delenn would be very serenely, ‘this is the universe’s way’ about things, and that she would kind of be seeing things almost in terms of the ‘orbit’ thing I keep using for them. That it was just inevitable that they would be drawn more and more toward each other, doing a kind of weird bonded dance, and inevitably, they’d have to collide and both cease to be. Possibly G’Kar would feel that way about it, too, weirdly enough. But I’m just like, ‘no, why were you even there, for real, like were you just in the neighborhood? did you have a Centauri parking ticket?’
it’s possible they said so in the past thing, but when I was watching it, I was legit thinking ‘Darkest Timeline’, so I didn’t think a lot of it would happen and wasn’t taking anything as This Is Happening For Real Yes. Honestly, I remember seeing Londo at first during that episode and thinking, “But that’s such backwards character development for him! This has to be like DS9’s mirror-verse where they just want something as audience-reaction-y as possible” and then the more I watched things, the more I thought, ‘Oh, no. That just happened which explains that thing…’ and ‘Oh. Oh noooo, that thing happened too??’
crying over londo mollari 2k15
I know, right? ;_; It’s so terribly painful. There’s actually a series of novels (The ‘Legions of Fire’ trilogy, if you’re interested) that detail exactly what went down during Londo’s reign, how Vir found out and raised a rebellion, why G’Kar came back, and how Vir dealt with the whole Drakh thing and wound up saving Centauri Prime. I’ve heard they’re not that great, though, so lots of people take them with a grain of salt and just accept the good parts (like Emperor Vir commissioning statues of Londo and G’Kar to watch over the city forever <3) and make up their own versions to fill in the gaps.
Haha, I saw commissioning statues and was like “Bing, yes, good, I’ll take a dozen, where do I sign?”
I’m a fan of Classic Doctor Who and DS9. I’m *really* good at just taking the good parts and filling in other things with stuff I like better. This will sit just fine with me.
I am both super excited that it was this devastating and really wanting it to have been like “And then Londo finds a way to save the day with Vir and G'Kar and G'Kar spends his life doing bodyguard shit and making faces at the entire palace and making them vaguely uncomfortable while he and Londo follow each other everywhere and are just a walking sassy royal feedback loop.” And G'Kar’s religious icon status (that he still has in this version somehow, go with me) brings a bunch of Narn to Centauri and there is more understanding and people are cool and yay.
i need to make up alternate endings to have the emotional foritude to get groceries, this is what it’s boiling down to, this is unfuckingbelievable
Thank you for the heads up regarding the books! Now that I’ve finished the damn thing, I can actually go look up stuff about it (cast changes, casual cruises through wikipedia, other media this has been done in, what the movies are, whether I need to repaint all those shiny 90s action figures (the answer is yes, let’s not fool ourselves), interviews, THE TUMBLR TAGS?? I don’t even know if anyone is out there. It occurs to me now, hours after finishing, that maybe I should have put my dramatic liveblogging spiral into the proper tags rather than just my silly drawing of G'Kar.
annnnnnd I’ll have to do some more painting them properly, probably super tied up in this orbit thing, because I have tied myself up and fascinated myself now. I’ve painting Londo once nicely, but the other drawings have been goofy. We’ll seeeeee
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